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VO2max and muscle mass
thomas, Belgium 5 Jan 2012

Hi,

My VO2max: 72 ml/min/kg for 52 kg
I can push 265 Watt Avg for 20 minutes => 5,1 W/kg (I train with Powertap)
I'm non -competitive, 19 years old
I am talented? I'm training for about only 1,5 years; should I start competitive?
More important: when I build up 10 kg muscle mass, would my absolute VO2max increase? So that I can push ( a lot) more power? I think so.. And my relative VO2max in ml/kg stay at the same level or increase also a little bit?
Would then stay my W/kg ratio at the same level? (I can push more but I weight more, so it stays the same)
And how to build up this muscle mass? In legs most and a bit in shoulders, back, belly... Because muscle mass that you don't use during cycling won't increase you absolute VO2max?
How to do this in gym? How many reps? Preferring hypertrophy of type 1 oxidative fibers? How? How much muscles mass should I gain; going to a weight of 65kg?

Thanks

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thomas, Belgium 6 Jan 2012
What do you think, Dr. Ferrari?
  drferrari, Italy 6 Jan 2012
Your VO2 max / kg is good and you can be competitive uphill.
Building up 10 kg muscle mass your absolute VO2max will increase and you will push more watts ; you will be more competitive in flat course and accelerations.
In theory VO2max/kg will not change, but if you will be able to concentrate the mass in the lower part of the body , the watt/kg will increase.
thomas, Belgium 6 Jan 2012
ok, thanks !!
I know what to do: building up muscles!

Nice site and interesting articles!
thomas, Belgium 6 Jan 2012
Just one more question:

- so it's certainly the best for my to build more muscles but how? how many reps?
i want that my type 1 fibers hypertrophy more because these are most important( they contain most mitochondria and these will also increase when I build muscles, right?) So when I do slightly more reps will type 1 most grow?

Or just doing 8 - 12 reps up to 15 for all-over hypertrophy. All type fibers will grow but the percentage "fast"- slow will stay the same?

  vdb, Italy 7 Jan 2012
Thomas,
je kan krijgen goede informatie over gym-training op fixedgearfever.com. Ik volg pyramyd method for max kracht (single leg press) en circuit training (20 rep slp, 10 squat jumps, 10 one leg squat) voor endurance training.
Je hebt ideale lichaam voor wielrennen, licht voor klimmen en gemakkelik zitten na grote renners op vlakte. Train met sterke amateur hardrijder (330-380 watts) op vlakte. Probeer hun te volgen, en later probeer te zit tegen het wind. Met je gewicht als je na twee-vier jaren training, kan 330-350 watts output je zal wereld-niveau worden op klimmen. Als je mijn ideen van training wil kennen ik zal je mijn email addres sturen. Fun met youw training
thomas, Belgium 7 Jan 2012
thanks for the information!!
you may give me your emailadress as you want
  vdb, Italy 7 Jan 2012
ftroili7@hotmail.com
All the best
thomas, Belgium 7 Jan 2012
I also like to know what you think Dr.F ?
About the reps en fibre types?
Won't the bigger fibres be bad for the oxygen diffusion from capillaires to muslcles? The number of mitochondria will also increase?

If you could tell me?
Thanks!
thomas, Belgium 8 Jan 2012
Please, could you tell me?
I'm very motivated to build muscles...
thomas, Belgium 12 Jan 2012
tell me how to do please?
thomas, Belgium 30 Mar 2012
I did a new FTP test
avg 272 watts on 20' test
weight: 53 (increased with +1 kg muscles)
so 5,13 W/kg avg on 20'
good?

Now build muscles in legs, so I can perform better on flat?
W/kg will even increase you think?
  drferrari, Italy 1 Apr 2012
with more watts you should perform better on flat .
To improve the watts/kg you have to train your AT.



thomas, Belgium 2 Apr 2012
ok,
But with my weight I can never reach the power of a rider of 70 kg?; even if my muscles are almost all type 1 fibers; because more heavy riders have a lot more absolute mass and even if they have less type 1 in %, they will still have more type 1 fibers in absolute mass. And so more absolute power.
Yes; I need to push less because of my lower frontal area (and weight).
But for more absolute power, you need more muscles; muscles you haven't; you can't train; right eh?
I wan't to be a good time trailist (high % of type 1, but because of higher absolute muscle mass, better performance on flat).

That's what I wan't to know, do I need to build a certain amount of muscle mass in legs? I train a lot wiht more heavy riders on the flat (men of 70-80 kg) and I can follow very good en ride on the head; but what if I had 10kg more muscle mass with the same % type 1;
I would easily drop them...

Yes, I do good trainig at AT with power meter.( subtreshold intervals, treshold intervals at or nearby treshold/FTP)

thomas, Belgium 2 Apr 2012
climbers:
" They pick up a high watt per kilogram of body weight, but their muscle mass is insufficient and so is their capacity too low to can follow. Also in the time trial, they can not develop enough power, because they have not the muscles there. "
thomas, Belgium 3 Apr 2012
It's a difficult question for you?
  Stefano, Italy 3 Apr 2012
Thomas,

take it easy, buddy. Alright? Thanks.

As for your question(s): you're 53kg, be grateful that you're that light and that you have potential to do some real damage on the climbs.
Try to survive on the flats. You won't likely ever produce the same amount of absolute wattage that a similarly fit 80kg athlete produces on the flats.
10kg more muscles? Where? In your legs alone? Good luck in trying to achieve that. That's unnatural and as far as my opinion goes, counterproductive for a light rider such as yourself.


thomas, Belgium 3 Apr 2012
ok, thanks,
but I look at it in a scientific /medical way
what will be the effect of building 5kg(if 10 isn't possible) muscles in legs on VO2max, W/kg etc..
Even if my W/kg stays the same but my absolute power increases, it will be easier to follow on the flat; being a good climber doesn't matter if you get dropped before the climbs...
DGW, United Kingdom 10 Apr 2012
Thomas, not to interrupt...but think they have been really generous with their time and knowledge. Scientifically - spend time developing (not building) the 'right' kind of muscles. And ride smart, look around at the articles and you'll see if you draft the bigger guy (he's a nice big wind block) you won't need to produce the same power...however he can never abandon his weight to keep up with you on climbs... ;) You know everything you need to know, produce good numbers in training, so not to worry with so many questions you're doing great :)))))) enjoy riding and best wishes.
thomas, Belgium 10 Apr 2012
thanks !
thomas, Belgium 14 Jul 2012
did new FTP test,
5.19 W/kg avg over 20'



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